The Lightroom Thread

Discussion in 'Develop, Process and Print' started by Rob MacKillop, Feb 20, 2016.

  1. Rob MacKillop

    Rob MacKillop Edinburgh Correspondent

    I thought it would be useful to have a thread devoted to Lightroom - tips and tricks, advice, or questions from those of us who are a bit overwhelmed by it.

    To get the ball rolling, I have one question:

    I have just developed my first image in Lightroom, and am quite pleased with the result. However, I noticed that the final image is only 80kb. That's fine for the web, but useless for printing. I can't recall having an option on the output quality. Your advice would be welcome.
     
  2. Martin Carlin

    Martin Carlin Active Member

    There are a number of options you can use Rob in the export dialogue box that will determine size of your exported photo.

    File settings box about the 4th panel down here you can choose what file type to output DNG, original, JPG Tiff, Ect.
    Each one of these has there own accompanying menus. So for Jpeg you can choose the quality and Limit the size of the file in KB
    Theres also a dropdown menu for you colour space I believe it has 3 Adobe RGB sRGB and prophoto RGB the last is what lightroom uses and displays.

    The next box down is more to do size mainly used for out put to the web and for print.
    Here you can give dimensions to your image in length of long edge ect. You can also set the resolution here for web 72dpi or Print say 300dpi .

    Once you set up a export how you want you can save it as a preset Just buy clicking add a dialogue box should appear and you can name it what you like such as RPF or the like
    Hope this Helps
     
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  3. Rob MacKillop

    Rob MacKillop Edinburgh Correspondent

    OK, I have Lightroom open, and an image to work with. I've managed to save as a Tiff file at 300dpi. Excellent. But I'd like to be able to always export as a Tiff file plus jpeg for web. I can't see an option for that, so would need to go through the Export process twice, every time. Is that right?

    Old tenor banjo from 1925:

    Banjo test shot ed.jpg
     
  4. Martin Carlin

    Martin Carlin Active Member

    If you save the presets Rob all you would have to do in right click the image and export as both which will mean two right clicks but you won't be taken into the export dialogue box
     
  5. Martin Carlin

    Martin Carlin Active Member

    so something like this rob

    Stour View.jpg
     
  6. Martin Carlin

    Martin Carlin Active Member

    so you would set up your dialogue box as such and save it as a preset such as Robs Tiff and you would do the same for Jpegs which I saved as RPG as a preset.
    Instead of saving them to user presets you can create your own folders for better organisation such as creating folders for your blog the forums and Print
    Let me know if I explained that ok for you.
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  7. Rob MacKillop

    Rob MacKillop Edinburgh Correspondent

    Thanks, Martin. I'll give it a good look over later today. Appreciated.
     
  8. Rob MacKillop

    Rob MacKillop Edinburgh Correspondent

    Collections...

    I've created a Collection called Edinburgh. I'd like to create a number of sub-Collections within that Collection called Botanics, Night, Castle, Architecture, etc, etc. Is that possible?

    I tried creating a Smart Collection called Botanics within "Edinburgh", but it just appears as a separate collection within Collections, although, on the plus side, it does include any image where I've placed the word Botanics as a Keyword.
     
  9. Rob MacKillop

    Rob MacKillop Edinburgh Correspondent

    And, Martin, looking at your two previous posts, how do I "save as preset" the Export dialogue box?
     
  10. Rob MacKillop

    Rob MacKillop Edinburgh Correspondent

    Ah, I've figured out the sub-collection thing. Create a Collection Set called Edinburgh, then create sub collections within that. It works!
     
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  11. Pete Askew

    Pete Askew Admin

    In the left hand pane of the export dialog you will see several groups of presets. You can add one to these by hitting the 'Add' button.
     
  12. Pete Askew

    Pete Askew Admin

    Make sure you select prompt for a name though!
     
  13. Rob MacKillop

    Rob MacKillop Edinburgh Correspondent

    Thanks, Pete. I managed to create the two user presets, one for Tiff, the other for jpeg. Couldn't see where to prompt for a name...
     
  14. Pete Askew

    Pete Askew Admin

    Where it asks what to do if the file exists already. So that latest export session doesn't over-write the last (unless you want it to). I personally don't use a preset for export as I usually use the same settings and just change the name of the file.

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  15. Rob MacKillop

    Rob MacKillop Edinburgh Correspondent

    Thanks.
     
  16. Rob MacKillop

    Rob MacKillop Edinburgh Correspondent

    I took one of my problematic film shots from a couple of months back to see what LR could do with it. Before and after:

    restaurant.jpg



    French Restaurant 4.jpg


    The original (shot with a Konica Hexar and XP2) is very contrasty, and lacks some detail. The angles are off as well.

    LR straightened the angles in one click, which surprised me. To be honest, I prefer the slight oddness of the original. Somehow with film it's OK to have out of kilter horizontals and verticals. But I can see how this "fix" could be useful in some circumstances.

    I brought out a little detail in the guys at the bar - LR offered me more, but I didn't want them to become a distraction.

    The light at the back of the room - on reflection I took it back too much. Somewhere in between would have been better.

    Overall, one can take all the quirks out of a picture, and end up with a poorer image. But, with some practise and taste, LR has the potential to subtly improve an image - but it depends on the image you start with. This one had problems from the start, which is why I chose it for the test.

    I think I will enjoy using LR, but as with all imaging software, a little goes a long way. I had been using Elements combined with the Nik Filters, and sometimes Alien Skin Exposure 5, but feel LR might be enough for most things.
     
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  17. Martin Carlin

    Martin Carlin Active Member

    You will soon have a load of develop presets where you bring out details with one click add grain split tones and much more.
    See not the scary after all and the great thing about it its all non destructive.
     
  18. Rob MacKillop

    Rob MacKillop Edinburgh Correspondent

    I'll test that assertion! :eek:
     
  19. Brian Moore

    Brian Moore Moderator

  20. Martin Carlin

    Martin Carlin Active Member

    Once you get into Lightroom Brian its quite easy. The great thing is you can't knacker your original photo as it does nothing to the original it only adds the sauce to on export but your original stays the same as you shot it.
     
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