Thanks Ivar. Will is good man with a happy disposition . It is a high ladder and you mention being careful, as a young teenager , with a friend we were going out fishing, the friend had a large box of bait which was awkward and he got on the top rung one handed of this same ladder , to slip topple and to fall sideways onto the front end of the punt. A miracle he was ok , so yes being careful is a good idea.