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Nihat Iyriboz
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http://nihatiyriboz.blogspot.com/2013/07/kahve-sohbeti.html
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Rob MacKillop
Edinburgh Correspondent
What a perfectly natural portrait and sitter. Perfect dof too!
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Nihat Iyriboz
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Thank you very much, Rob. 
Julian de'Courcy
Well-Known Member
Nihat I always admire how you get that very natural look, the reds of the face in this one, the pose, depth of field perfection, making a lovely portrait.
Pete Askew
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What a beautifully balance portrait Nihat. And the colours are just perfect too. Wonderful stuff.
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Nihat Iyriboz
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Julian, thank you very much. When I first him at sunrise, he was reserved and the B+W image I made reflected a reserved and distant man. After working at the Temple of Apollo, I visited him again. We had coffee together (his hospitality at his home), and conversed for a while. He was happy and warm. His son was with us too.
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Thank you very much, Pete.
You know, I miss making images in colour. I've decide to keep all my Zuiko leses but three.
18/3.5, 24/3.5 shift, 35/2.0, 50/2.0 macro, 85/2.0, 180/2.8, 80/4.0 macro, 135/4.5 macro.
I am contemplating a digital camera. I do enjoy using an optical viewfinder.
Any suggestions?
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Thank you very much, Pete.
You know, I miss making images in colour. I've decide to keep all my Zuiko leses but three.
18/3.5, 24/3.5 shift, 35/2.0, 50/2.0 macro, 85/2.0, 180/2.8, 80/4.0 macro, 135/4.5 macro.
I am contemplating a digital camera. I do enjoy using an optical viewfinder.
Any suggestions?
Pete Askew
Admin
Do you have a budget? And do you want to use you Zuiko lenses?
The new Leica M has both a rangefinder and live view and you can get adapters. I'd only go down that route if I had some legacy Leica lenses and were comfortable with the Leica approach though I think. Probably a more cost-effective option would be an X-Pro 1 from Fuji. Again you can get adapters to allow you to use the Zuiko lenses along with the Fuji ones. Chris might be able to advise better on the Fuji.
The new Leica M has both a rangefinder and live view and you can get adapters. I'd only go down that route if I had some legacy Leica lenses and were comfortable with the Leica approach though I think. Probably a more cost-effective option would be an X-Pro 1 from Fuji. Again you can get adapters to allow you to use the Zuiko lenses along with the Fuji ones. Chris might be able to advise better on the Fuji.
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Nihat Iyriboz
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Thank you very much, Pete. Yes, Zuiko lenses. But, as I speak with a supplier, I am finding out that the digital lenses are designed for the sensor base cameras and will perform better. The film lenses would still work, yet I am not able to receive information about the level of quality deterioration they may bring. Leica M, has a better bokeh and colour saturation I notice on a comparison video. But buying a digital Leica body and using film lenses is pointless, I think. Perhaps, the answer to my question is patience for now.
Pete Askew
Admin
I think that supplier could do with finding a book on the the basics of optics!
There is no reason why a lens designed for a film camera shouldn't work well on a digital camera. Providing the distance behind the lens is adequate and you can focus to infinity (and even if not) many of the better designs will produce stunning results. Wide angle lenses cause the biggest problems especially with range finder designs. Leica solved the problem by using angled micro-lenses at the edges of the sensor and standard ones towards the centre. Fuji may do something similar as well as using processing algorithms related to the specific lens in use (Hasselblad took this approach with their very wide angle optics in the H4/H5. The actual physical performance of the various lenses will vary but is an objective measure. Whether that translates into an attractive quality is subjective. Hamish has a lot of experience of using heritage glass on NEX and similar cameras and some of the 'defects' translate into beautiful imagery. Having lenses that were designed for the camera allows corrections to be made in software for any optical defects. In some ways, many of the older, high quality optics are actually optically superior in design as such corrections couldn't be made. This is often reflected in the price.
I suggested using a Leica or a Fuji based on the knowledge that you use an M7 to great effect. But maybe an SLR would be attractive. Julian could probably advise on the Olympus route and other makes could function with the right adapter.
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All Leica M lenses work perfectly on the M.
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As do the R lenses.
There is no reason why a lens designed for a film camera shouldn't work well on a digital camera. Providing the distance behind the lens is adequate and you can focus to infinity (and even if not) many of the better designs will produce stunning results. Wide angle lenses cause the biggest problems especially with range finder designs. Leica solved the problem by using angled micro-lenses at the edges of the sensor and standard ones towards the centre. Fuji may do something similar as well as using processing algorithms related to the specific lens in use (Hasselblad took this approach with their very wide angle optics in the H4/H5. The actual physical performance of the various lenses will vary but is an objective measure. Whether that translates into an attractive quality is subjective. Hamish has a lot of experience of using heritage glass on NEX and similar cameras and some of the 'defects' translate into beautiful imagery. Having lenses that were designed for the camera allows corrections to be made in software for any optical defects. In some ways, many of the older, high quality optics are actually optically superior in design as such corrections couldn't be made. This is often reflected in the price.
I suggested using a Leica or a Fuji based on the knowledge that you use an M7 to great effect. But maybe an SLR would be attractive. Julian could probably advise on the Olympus route and other makes could function with the right adapter.
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All Leica M lenses work perfectly on the M.
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As do the R lenses.
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Rob MacKillop
Edinburgh Correspondent
Resist, Nihat, resist! Film!!!!! You are a Master already...
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Nihat Iyriboz
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Thank you very much for the detailed information, Pete.
I learned a lot. For Fuji there is only one adaptor by Novaflex which is a long tube. (I guess the reasons are as you explained.) And, it does focus to infinity at $211.
M7, being a full frame camera is appealing, Pete. How does M7 deal with the SLR film lenses as far as lens frame lines are concerned?
Last year, I held an Olympus OM D in New York, and did not like the digital viewfinder concept. Being a minimalist, I'd ignore all the fancy features of the digital camera.
I learned a lot. For Fuji there is only one adaptor by Novaflex which is a long tube. (I guess the reasons are as you explained.) And, it does focus to infinity at $211.
M7, being a full frame camera is appealing, Pete. How does M7 deal with the SLR film lenses as far as lens frame lines are concerned?
Last year, I held an Olympus OM D in New York, and did not like the digital viewfinder concept. Being a minimalist, I'd ignore all the fancy features of the digital camera.
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Nihat Iyriboz
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Thank you very much, Rob!
This is not meant to be a primary objective. But, I am considering a solution for two reasons. To be able to photograph in colour, sunsets, some flowers, icebergs, glaciers (if any left). Also, eventually as a retiree to travel and feed my blog along my travels. The existing infrastructure is not mobile. I'd still haul the rest of the equipment to process all the B+W film on my return home.
This is not meant to be a primary objective. But, I am considering a solution for two reasons. To be able to photograph in colour, sunsets, some flowers, icebergs, glaciers (if any left). Also, eventually as a retiree to travel and feed my blog along my travels. The existing infrastructure is not mobile. I'd still haul the rest of the equipment to process all the B+W film on my return home.
Pete Askew
Admin
The M7 is a film camera Nihat and you can't use it with non RF lenses as you won't be able to focus accurately. The same is true with the M9; perfect with RF coupled lenses, but useless with anything else. The new Leica M has live view and so you would use the viewfinder with RF coupled lenses and the screen with anything else. The X-Pro 1 would be similar except that you have the hybrid viewfinder, but if an EVF doesn't suit you it may be better to pursue an SLR approach.
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The problem with an SLR is the bulk. I think you should have a close look at the X-Pro 1 and use mainly the Fuji lenses. For travel it could be perfect. If you want to mix film and digital then maybe Leica is the way (but the budget would be higher). Maybe a S/H M6 for film and the M for digital and a Tri-Elmar lens.
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The problem with an SLR is the bulk. I think you should have a close look at the X-Pro 1 and use mainly the Fuji lenses. For travel it could be perfect. If you want to mix film and digital then maybe Leica is the way (but the budget would be higher). Maybe a S/H M6 for film and the M for digital and a Tri-Elmar lens.
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Nihat Iyriboz
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Thank you very much, Pete.
Based on your information and some reading, I decided to stay with my existing 35mm film camera system until 2018.
Based on your information and some reading, I decided to stay with my existing 35mm film camera system until 2018.
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Brian Moore
Moderator
Beauty of a portrait Nihat.
By the way, digital is for the birds! Shoot film only! Yeah,...That's what I say!
Uh oh,...Wait,...Lots of our friends on RPF shoot digital. [doh]
Nothing at all wrong with digital Nihat. I highly recommend it. Nothing better! Go digi!
By the way, digital is for the birds! Shoot film only! Yeah,...That's what I say!
Uh oh,...Wait,...Lots of our friends on RPF shoot digital. [doh]
Nothing at all wrong with digital Nihat. I highly recommend it. Nothing better! Go digi!
