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Rob MacKillop

Edinburgh Correspondent
Yesterday's meeting of the Scottish Lute and Early Guitar Society. I managed a few snaps with the DP2M in B&W mode, ISO 800. The lighting is really hard to work with, as all the overhead spotlights are targeting the exhibits in the cabinets. And many of the guys and girls don't relish being photographed, though none complained.

The second shot has some Glamour Glow from Nik Colour, and Bill, the player, really likes it. All the others are as they came out of the camera.

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You've brought this museum to life which cannot be said about most museums. Superb rob, like the quality of the B+W ness of them all.
 
Second last one is really lovely. They look as though they are having a go at a new piece or perhaps a shared love of a tune. A great selection from what looks like a very interesting day.
 
Thanks guys. It's a fun afternoon, for sure, but we only meet once every three months, with people coming from all over Scotland and the north of Englandshire.
 
A bit off topic here Rob
Have you heard Songs from the Labyrinth by Sting
If so what did you think of it. I'm not sure how much of the lute playing was by him. Heard it said that most of it was by the Bosnian player whose name I cannot remember and all my music is packed away. But that might be the cynics as usual.
I liked a lot of it and felt good on Sting for heading in this direction.
 
Do we dare ask why Rob? I also enjoyed the album but what I most like is that the songs are sung in a regional accent. I have another album of music from John Dowland but I find it all a bit too perfect and hate the operatic voice that sings on it.
 
Well, maybe you would like Mignarda, an American man and wife team, who have dedicated themselves to this repertoire for many years now: http://www.mignarda.com

I too dislike the operatic voice for this repertoire, but that does not mean a pop singer approach works any better. I don't know where to begin with the lute playing, which has far more in connection with contemporary steel-strung guitar or modern classical guitar, than anything John Dowland would have recognised. The two lutes Sting and his friend play, were completely unknown in Dowland's day, and were constructed for music with a different aesthetic.

Either way, operatic or pop, neither gets close to Dowland. This, in my humble opinion, does:


It is not surprising that many people like what Sting does with these songs - he is a great communicator, and I've almost always liked his work. But I just can't bear listening to his Dowland performances. It's not a case of my being a musical snob, it's more a case of the colouring they bring to Dowland's music is so at odds with the musical and poetic nuances of the Renaissance, that what they end up with is something new - nothing wrong with that - but I'm more interested in Dowland than in Sting.

The reason I gave a short reply to Tom is that I much prefer talking about what I like, rather than what I don't like - there is far too much of that going on on the internet already. Listen to the nuances the Mignarda couple draw from these songs (rather than impose on the songs). There is a self-effacing beauty there that is also very personal - a typical Renaissance conceit - where the cult of the singer or the lute player has no place.

We may never agree on this one, which is also why I didn't want to discuss it :)
 
Do we dare ask why Rob? I also enjoyed the album but what I most like is that the songs are sung in a regional accent. I have another album of music from John Dowland but I find it all a bit too perfect and hate the operatic voice that sings on it.
I thought Stings version of Come Again is beautiful and the instrument worked perfectly with the singing. Lots of the album I found a bit boring but on the whole I consider it to be an important album as it may well bring a new audience to this music.
The you tube performance which is probably more pure and more accurate, to me was a little boring; a bit like Rob's reason for me shorting me:D:D
 
Thanks Rob, that really is interesting and I think I can understand why the Sting album would disturb you. The Mignarda performance is very different and, I would think, much less accessible than the Sting one and think I would find it difficult to listen to too much of it (but I will root out some more).

We have just watched a film given to us about the roots of German folk music and why it is not performed so much any more. Again interesting and also not very accessible and, in general, appears to lack the progressive form taken by other forms of folk. However, there was a performance by a famous contemporary musical called Bobo (it must have seemed a good idea at the time!) in church that was nothing short of stunning.
 
I wouldn't have said that Mignarda was less accessible, probably actually more. A lot of what I heard in the clip Rob posted has a clear musical link to some gothic rock/pop that I heard which was relatively mainstream for a while. I do have a bit of an eclectic taste in music though. These days I like to torture the wife and kids with Pentangle and Sandy Denny, before that it was Alkaline Trio.
 
Whatever torture Paul performs I would not know, but this is far from any torture, ( not implying that he feels so about this, and Paul be careful, you may want some more equipment in the future ). Personally my feel for music is all embracing, onto each and every piece I hear and this was a joy to listen to. Thank you Rob. No offence paul;)
 
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