Paul Lange
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Oh, I thought I posted something already but I can't see anything. I must have imagined it. I like this very much it has a sort of fairy tale look to it.
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Pete Askew
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Thanks Paul.
Keith Hollister
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Oooh! - I love this shot Pete. Great composition and a marvelous location.
Thought about trying a version with some glow (Orton, CEP Glamour Glow, whatever) and maybe a little more shadow detail (because the glow will tend to smudge the shadows)? Might kick it up another notch in the creep factor
Great photograph!
Thought about trying a version with some glow (Orton, CEP Glamour Glow, whatever) and maybe a little more shadow detail (because the glow will tend to smudge the shadows)? Might kick it up another notch in the creep factor
Great photograph!
Pete Askew
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Thanks Keith. Great minds obviously think alike! I actually planned to add glow in Nik ColorFX to the image and, although I usually go the other way round, I produced a version using this after SilverFX (to give more warmth to the tones as well). However, I didn't like the artefacts that the process created around the fine branches and being very selective with control points lost much of the impact. But maybe I'll try it with the glow first then SilverFX and either warm the toning up in that or use a change of colour temperature in LR.
Keith Hollister
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Well I'm probably going to tell you stuff you already know, but ...
You might try applying the filter via PS and using a layer mask. You could could control where the glow is applied as well as modifying opacity on the exposed branches. You could also try the original Orton Effect in PS - overexpose by 2 stops and defocus via Gaussian blur on a separate layer then blend as desired. Were the artifacts halos or something else?
Were you just using SEP for toning (I admit I was a little confused on using it on a Monochrom file)?
You might try applying the filter via PS and using a layer mask. You could could control where the glow is applied as well as modifying opacity on the exposed branches. You could also try the original Orton Effect in PS - overexpose by 2 stops and defocus via Gaussian blur on a separate layer then blend as desired. Were the artifacts halos or something else?
Were you just using SEP for toning (I admit I was a little confused on using it on a Monochrom file)?
Pete Askew
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Thanks Keith, I often use Nik in PS in that way (e.g., I find that route a better way to build a bleach bypass simulation). I haven't tried with this image and kept the PP fairly simple but maybe I should have more of a play before I produce a print.
SilverFX is useful when working on the files from the Monochrom and I find you can produce 'better' results than from LR / PS alone with the control points etc (I guess that is why Leica supply a license key for both LR and SilverFX with it). I especially like the grain simulation and local 'structure' controls but I also use the toning and borders.
SilverFX is useful when working on the files from the Monochrom and I find you can produce 'better' results than from LR / PS alone with the control points etc (I guess that is why Leica supply a license key for both LR and SilverFX with it). I especially like the grain simulation and local 'structure' controls but I also use the toning and borders.
Keith Hollister
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Ah - Thou Shalt Not Use Structure Or Grain Before The Very End 
On a side note, this image reminds me of Gregory Crewdson's work for some reason, although I'm sure you had a smaller crew, less of a prop budget and didn't use an 11x14 view camera (or whatever monstrosity he uses).
On a side note, this image reminds me of Gregory Crewdson's work for some reason, although I'm sure you had a smaller crew, less of a prop budget and didn't use an 11x14 view camera (or whatever monstrosity he uses).
Pete Askew
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Exactly!
I'd given the crew the afternoon off!
I'd given the crew the afternoon off!
Keith Hollister
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Have an IR camera (can you even get Kodak IR film anymore)? This would be killer in IR, too.
Pete Askew
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Kodak have discontinued their IR film. Rolei make one though. I have an IR converted Fuji S3 pro which I bought for a project at work. I did play with it when we bought it though. Not sure how much IR signature you'g get off the dead leaves but the sky would have been interesting.
http://www.realphotographersforum.com/forum/threads/ir-tree-fern.12288/
http://www.realphotographersforum.com/forum/threads/ir-tree-fern.12288/
