Gauge And Flywheel

Lovely details, Julian. Merrill images?
Thanks Brian, yes the DP3 , I aught to get into a practice of mentioning the camera. I processed these very differently by softening the images a lot, it changes and gives what I believe is a better light quality. sometimes the Merrils can be so detailed they lose the light, that is for me a greatest part of photography , by losing the light I mean they become too much about detail.
 
Thanks Brian, yes the DP3 , I aught to get into a practice of mentioning the camera. I processed these very differently by softening the images a lot, it changes and gives what I believe is a better light quality. sometimes the Merrils can be so detailed they lose the light, that is for me a greatest part of photography , by losing the light I mean they become too much about detail.
Thanks Julian. This emphasis on detail is what defines digital photography for me, and its why I prefer film generally speaking.
 
Thanks Julian. This emphasis on detail is what defines digital photography for me, and its why I prefer film generally speaking.
I do have a love hate thing with the Merrills. In some ways I wish I had not missed out on the earlier generations. I kick myself for not getting the DP2x which was going for £199 up until Christmas. Their quality of light for what I can see was superb.
 
The aged and dirty colours of the gauge are beautiful Julian and it has the perfect background/environment to sit with. Love it.
The second image reveals itself as follows on my screen; four out of focus spokes visible, the one on the right more so than the others. I was wondering if there is another spoke at the bottom which is invisible. The centre red knob has a little burn out at top (say at ten past). It has uneven light and becomes darker towards bottom; very dark at say (twenty five to). As you were wondering how we see it I thought I would outline what I see.
I use 24inch apple mac display. I have never needed to callibrate it and have good representative prints from the screen without callibration. I'm thankful for this because when you enter into the impossible jungle of colour management it, for me, leads to stress and unnecessary trouble and saves me from drowning in the sludge that resides in the bowels of Photoshop :).

However your image works well in the context of the first one. On it's own maybe I would like to see more.
 
The aged and dirty colours of the gauge are beautiful Julian and it has the perfect background/environment to sit with. Love it.
The second image reveals itself as follows on my screen; four out of focus spokes visible, the one on the right more so than the others. I was wondering if there is another spoke at the bottom which is invisible. The centre red knob has a little burn out at top (say at ten past). It has uneven light and becomes darker towards bottom; very dark at say (twenty five to). As you were wondering how we see it I thought I would outline what I see.
I use 24inch apple mac display. I have never needed to callibrate it and have good representative prints from the screen without callibration. I'm thankful for this because when you enter into the impossible jungle of colour management it, for me, leads to stress and unnecessary trouble and saves me from drowning in the sludge that resides in the bowels of Photoshop :).

However your image works well in the context of the first one. On it's own maybe I would like to see more.
Thank you so much Tom. I did go into an apple shop and logged into my flickr the images I viewed looked darker than when I processed them. Although I have a good Monitor, an EIZO which for me gives for myself a more pleasing look to images, with superb anti glare screen and very easy on the eyes. That is why I hesitate to get an iMac, as well as having Photoshop Cs6, which is windows only, as they are, one or the other. I'd have to sign up to Adobe CC to use CS6 again, to use Cs6 with a new imac. I also use Swimming software such as HiTek, which is a meet entry result and swimming data base bit of kit along with other related software which is only available for windows. Yes I could have both an iMac and PC and return to Light Room, although I am not so keen on Light Room as I am with Cs6. I will pick up a Display port cable tomorrow, I think there is a much wider capability with the EIZO displays regarding calibrating, using the DP, which is partly why I changed the graphics card . I only print in B+W , I am not so clever , but manage to achieve ok prints, with a few trials. The colurs with this new Graphics card are much improved, more tonal range and depth.

From your detailed description I am already bang on now or very close, to what you are viewing,yet as I mentioned far from what resulted using the older Graphics card on the original processing , they were much lighter over all. Tom thank you so much for the input.
 
It sounds as though you have a set up you are happy with Julian. My Mac display is good but not necessarily the be all and end all as many think they are. I personally think Apple products, though good and very well made, are sold at totally rip off prices.
 
It sounds as though you have a set up you are happy with Julian. My Mac display is good but not necessarily the be all and end all as many think they are. I personally think Apple products, though good and very well made, are sold at totally rip off prices.

I hear what you say. They have to get the income for 'Apple Care' from somewhere which having used it is brilliant.
What does interest me is the Hackingtosh , I believe the Dell pre-built XPS 8300 and 8500 could be run using the OS X . But then I cannot see the advantage for myself other than I could use Irident raw developer for the Sigma's. It would be fun building such a system though.
 
@Tom Dunne , Tom may or may not be of interest.Maybe not as you have a mac. I started from scratch getting rid of all the graphic card drivers and utilities and did a clean re-install. It enabled me to calibrate again with the Spyder 4 pro from scratch. This time I got what was a much improved result.
The curious thing is, I have been using charts off the web to verify the results, such as this http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php and http://www.eizo.com/global/library/basics/difference_in_image_quality/ along with may others. I now have according to all the found charts, a spot on calibration for viewing tonal range. Accept the best results and by quite a margin are when using Fire Fox. I have been using Google Chrome for the last few months , which the results are far from ideal. I used to use Safari on windows until they recently stopped support. I am quite taken aback just how much the browser can affect the tonal range of images.
Thanks again for your input.
 
It is a minefield Julian. When I had windows I battled to get my prints to match what I considered to be acceptable on my Spyder callibrated screen. When I did get acceptable results from my printer it was only after much trial and error and wasted expensive paper. There are so many variables and to get them all to talk the same language was for me bordering on the impossible and of course when sharing images online more potential problems as others may not be seeing your images exactly as you would like them to. Colour Management for me was far too complicated and I just wanted to enjoy photography and now I steer clear of all the tech stuff and try to maintain the simplest of methods.. I gave up home printing alltogether. I was only printing for competition anyway and most of the year the inks were sitting idle and drying up. To manage this I would switch on the printer once every week and let it do it's start up routine and wet the heads but this just wasted ink. I know some friends who never calibrated their monitors and seem to get great results from their prints.
I rarely print now but when I do I send them off and get acceptable results from http://www.dscolourlabs.co.uk/
Firefox is my first preference browser and has been for many years. I guess Julian maybe you might need to stick with the browser that you used for viewing the charts and verifying the results with.. Difficult one that.
Sorry Julian that I cannot be more helpful on this.
 
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