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Just in case you didn't notice, I've left the room.
I've been out taking pictures. What's your excuse?
 
Not certain who' you are talking too Tom. Glad to hear you've been able to get out.
Myself i've taken a large amount of photographs. Thrown seven earthenware pots, taken the wheel apart and a friend kindly, checked over and repaired some of the electric, I also took the shaft too an engineers to get a new tapper lathed for a new wheel head. Got the wheel back together and threw more pots. Under glazed several of the pots which are in the kiln. Need to travel to Exeter Pottery supplies before glazing the rest, as I am out of glaze. In between this I visited the doctors as my right shin bone has doubled in size and is extremely painful, but nowt can be done. All this on crutches as it is now a permanent feature of myself, something that will decline rapidly . I try and not to use the wheel chair in the front room as I am determined to keep going as long as possible without. Fortunately even though I have not any movement whatever in my spine they allow me to drive a car . even though I can only look straight ahead, that is also permanent . Mirrors are the answer so I don't crash into anyone. The car is my saviour and without I'd be completely house bound, I wonder if that would be a good enough excuse. Except the dilemma is when I need the oral morph on top of the four hourly pain relief, It is not wise to drive.

So no excuses Tom none whatsoever.

O forgot. mowed the lawn, which I can tell you is serious fun on two crutches and takes quite lot of ingenuity, which is difficult when it come to a simple guy like myself.
 
Bloody hell @Julian de'Courcy . All that from throwing a bit of clay about. I haven't quite worked out the mirror thing yet. You sort of described a dalek, I think. I was going to say : stiff upper lip old chap, but that seems to be an all body experience for you.
How the fxxk do you press the sitter?
 
Tom Dinning said:
I want to see a Selfy.
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Tom Dinning said:
Bloody hell @Julian de'Courcy . All that from throwing a bit of clay about. I haven't quite worked out the mirror thing yet. You sort of described a dalek, I think. I was going to say : stiff upper lip old chap, but that seems to be an all body experience for you.
How the fxxk do you press the sitter?
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Tom Dinning, there are much you haven't worked out. I promised myself not to anymore stoop to Tom's level here, but I can't help myself. If I am expelled after this so be it, I really do not care. My only excuse is that I am not English and may misunderstand someones ways of writing. The way you have answered Julian here Tom cannot be misunderstood. It is beyond any respect, outragious, nasty and if it is meant to be funny, I surely cannot detect the funniness in it. You are addressing a fine man who is in a situation no one here would like to be in and I guess it's OK to sit down under and puke out anything that falls to your mind without reflecting on consequences or whether you do damage to people. Not neccesarily physically. You tell us that this is the way you are, well I have not seen anyone like you here and I hope that I never shall. If this is your way of educating people Tom Dinning, then I think you should reconsider. You owe him an appology. I am also amazed that no one here has the guts to say what they mean about your answers or is this behaviour all right? I can of course silence you to death and I have been adviced to do so. I am no spokesman for this forum and it is not upon me such a task. I solely say what I mean here, kind of getting it off my chest, so the hurt may go away. I am sorry that I am such an emotional person.
 
I was going to write @Ivar D. Larsen a private message to ask what this is all about but I'll go public in the hope that someone else can explain it all.
Ivar D. Larsen said:
Tom Dinning, there are much you haven't worked out. I promised myself not to anymore stoop to Tom's level here, but I can't help myself. If I am expelled after this so be it, I really do not care. My only excuse is that I am not English and may misunderstand someones ways of writing. The way you have answered Julian here Tom cannot be misunderstood. It is beyond any respect, outragious, nasty and if it is meant to be funny, I surely cannot detect the funniness in it. You are addressing a fine man who is in a situation no one here would like to be in and I guess it's OK to sit down under and puke out anything that falls to your mind without reflecting on consequences or whether you do damage to people. Not neccesarily physically. You tell us that this is the way you are, well I have not seen anyone like you here and I hope that I never shall. If this is your way of educating people Tom Dinning, then I think you should reconsider. You owe him an appology. I am also amazed that no one here has the guts to say what they mean about your answers or is this behaviour all right? I can of course silence you to death and I have been adviced to do so. I am no spokesman for this forum and it is not upon me such a task. I solely say what I mean here, kind of getting it off my chest, so the hurt may go away. I am sorry that I am such an emotional person.
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What the fuck is this all about?
What have I done now?
Does Ivan need a better translator or a better sense of humour or what?
Does everything I say have to pass through him before its OKéd?
Are you against Australians or something?
Give me a clue, Ivan so I can sleep at night. Actually I sleep real well.

As for the insults, lets see what you've come up with so far.
Disrespectful, outragious, nasty and thats just from one paragraph. And if i didn't understand your slant on the English language I'd be a bit concerned from the statement "I can of course silence you to death and I have been adviced to do so". Should I sleep with my eyes open? And who provided you with that advise?

Stop apologising for being an emotional person. Its OK. I can cope. Some days I just don't understand emotions. And I dont apologise for it because I dont see the need to. I don't have any emotions, you see. Well, none to speak of. That may seem a bit strange for a bloke of your intellect but consider my position. Dealing with people who have emotions and empathy isnt easy when you dont have any yourself.
So, like with Julian, its easier for me to have a joke than it is to have any feelings for him and his position, whatever that is.
I don't know any other way. Does that make me a bad person? My parents said no. It just helps me survive in a world I don't understand. Back in my youth they called my condition 'bad behaviour'. Now they have another name for it. Its even listed in the DMV IV. I wouldn't know either way.
So, Ivan, Get a life will you. We are not all like you and, thank someone, we are not all like me.
 
Ivar (not Ivan!), I'm not convinced that Tom was all that disrespectful in the part you quoted. In his blundering way, he was trying to be funny. Maybe, Tom, like my conceptual photo, you failed. Maybe humour needs super articulation to succeed, but I doubt it.

Maybe we should all got to a sauna together, and get naked! Now that would be funny!
 
This thread seems to be full of misunderstandings.

Ivar and Julian have met and so he has a better understanding of the trials that Julian undertakes on a daily basis. I think @Tom Dinning , that you have grasped this but the humour and respect you intended in your response was lost in translation as it were, and the spell checker didn't help. Ivar has a fine grasp of English but I can imagine how easy your response was to misunderstand. I work with people and live with a person who's first language is not English and I am very aware of how easily a misunderstanding can develop. Add an ultra-direct approach and things can go very wrong very quickly.

There are a wide range of people on this forum and they exhibit a wide range of sensitivities (emotions, empathy, whatever). These may be difficult to understand if one has none oneself but that does not provide an excuse not to stand back and try to anaylse a situation and how one should respond to it. In person these things can be sorted out more easily but over distance and time and in writing (especially in a foreign language) this becomes much harder and requires significant thought.

So, maybe a virtual sauna then. But NO selfless please! ;)
 
Pete Askew said:
So, maybe a virtual sauna then. But NO selfless please!
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"Selfies," Pete? I agree completely. ;)

Pete Askew said:
I think @Tom Dinning , that you have grasped this but the humour and respect you intended in your response was lost in translation as it were, and the spell checker didn't help.
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Agreed.

Pete Askew said:
There are a wide range of people on this forum and they exhibit a wide range of sensitivities (emotions, empathy, whatever). These may be difficult to understand if one has none oneself but that does not provide an excuse not to stand back and try to anaylse a situation and how one should respond to it.
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Yup! And with the vulgarities now seemingly acceptable, I no longer feel that I would like my girls to contribute, were they to take up an interest in photography. Its getting potty, in more ways than one. (We used to have a thing that prevented vulgar words from appearing. Wonder where it went?)
 
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