Yes, of course. You obviously knew what I meant. I've seen some hdr images that didn't really look like people think of when they think of hdr. They just looked like really good photos. I've tried my hand at it a few times to get more dynamic range and it works well if not overdone. What I haven't done is to do hdr on an image before converting to b&w. That sounds like it might be interesting. But not as interesting as your new quattro.John, no HDR used - not that you are saying there is: I'm just clarifying.