Rob MacKillop
Edinburgh Correspondent
Two similar shots, but which placement in the frame do you prefer. At first I thought the central position, but there's something about the lower-positioned one that attracts me, as if we've stumbled upon it.
Which One?
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Pete Askew
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The first is more about the flower I think whereas the other involves the whole frame and starts to ask questions.
Nice shot ether way. Delicate. Almost like a painting (Oh no, here we go again!
). 
Nice shot ether way. Delicate. Almost like a painting (Oh no, here we go again!
).
Rob MacKillop
Edinburgh Correspondent
Ha. Painting with light, indeed.
Yes, the second asks questions - I like that. A photo should ask questions, perhaps.
Yes, the second asks questions - I like that. A photo should ask questions, perhaps.
Julian de'Courcy
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I'd have been pleased with either Rob, very different from each other as can been seen.
John Allen
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Beautiful light. I prefer the first. The semi-circle at the top is more intrusive in the second image.
Rob MacKillop
Edinburgh Correspondent
Thanks, lads. I find it fascinating, and sometimes frustrating, that the placement of a an object within a few millimetres here and there, can radically change the interpretation of an image. That's the art of composition, of course.
In the first, the flower and its raindrops are definitely the only thing to be considered. In the second, the flower's environment enters, and complicates the issue. The eye wanders a little. That can be OK if the new information contributes more to the understanding of the main subject, which, in this case, it could be argued that it does. It's the edge of a flower pot, although that might not be obvious, in which case the abstract curved line brings an element of poetry, motion, and, as Pete suggests, questioning.
I find this sort of dialogue and dynamic within an image fascinating.
In the first, the flower and its raindrops are definitely the only thing to be considered. In the second, the flower's environment enters, and complicates the issue. The eye wanders a little. That can be OK if the new information contributes more to the understanding of the main subject, which, in this case, it could be argued that it does. It's the edge of a flower pot, although that might not be obvious, in which case the abstract curved line brings an element of poetry, motion, and, as Pete suggests, questioning.
I find this sort of dialogue and dynamic within an image fascinating.
John Allen
Well-Known Member
There is also the matter of dof. This image would be entirely different if the background was completely blurred out, so that the flower is even more isolated.
Julian de'Courcy
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True Rob, yet the composition is a small part. Change one colour's hue within one small area of an image and it alters all the colours within the image, change a tone in one area or a small part, it changes the whole image. It is why when we revisit an image and change our approach it works when it did not first time. It is why we each have our style as we tend to manipulate each time in our own way.Change our approach and we change our style.
Rob MacKillop
Edinburgh Correspondent
That's true too, Julian. It's a complicated business!
Julian de'Courcy
Well-Known Member
Its enjoyment , I've made images daily all my life, be it a sketch painting or photo and never worked out why other than I enjoy it.
Rob MacKillop
Edinburgh Correspondent
I just do it for the money. 
Sadly, it's not working out for me!
Sadly, it's not working out for me!
Julian de'Courcy
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Call yourself a ScotsmanI just do it for the money.
Pete Askew
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A perfect opportunity for another Woody Allen quote I reckon, "I'm very proud of my gold pocket watch. My grandfather, on his deathbed, sold me this watch."
Ivar Dahl-Larsen
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It is lovely, but I too have a question about the raindrops. How odd the way they are positioned. Why isn't there raindrops on the upper or even on the lower part of the flower. And how was the flower situated when the rain hit since there isn't any hanging drops here, only resting drops in their conformity. Did you photograph it from straight above Rob?The first is more about the flower I think whereas the other involves the whole frame and starts to ask questions.
Nice shot either way. Delicate. Almost like a painting (Oh no, here we go again!
Rob MacKillop
Edinburgh Correspondent
Ten out of ten for observation, Ivar. I did indeed shoot straight down from above.
Pete Askew
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What? You didn't levitate that flower pot. Cheat!
Rob MacKillop
Edinburgh Correspondent
No...
Ivar Dahl-Larsen
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And did you ad some droplets too?
Rob MacKillop
Edinburgh Correspondent
No. That was my tears - it was so beautiful 
Add droplets?! I suppose people do that sort of thing. We get plenty of the stuff falling from the skies. No need to add water. Never heard of such a thing!
Add droplets?! I suppose people do that sort of thing. We get plenty of the stuff falling from the skies. No need to add water. Never heard of such a thing!
Ivar Dahl-Larsen
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Go to bed old man, you are imagining things.No. That was my tears - it was so beautiful
Add droplets?! I suppose people do that sort of thing. We get plenty of the stuff falling from the skies. No need to add water. Never heard of such a thing!
