Advice Needed Which Digital Camera Please?

Stan Hesketh

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I realise there may be many answers, but only have limited experience with digital cameras. Here are my needs:
A digital camera with a viewfinder and not just a screen (vital).
Want to be able to use my various exisiting M42/FD/Yashica lenses with adaptors.
Reasonably priced (retired now) possibly secondhand Ebay etc.
Type of photography mainly landscape, some animals, lots of boat use/walking.
Hence fairly compact size and lightweight.
Built in flash with provision for larger flash accessory.
Doesn't need to be very high pixel rating.

Any pointers would be most welcome so I can compile a shopping list ;)
Many thanks.
 
I guess it depends on your budget really Stan.

A Fuji XE-1 would do most of what you're looking for on your list, although it hasn't got an optical viewfinder. With the new XE-2 out, I guess there will be a few good examples floating around the second hand market at an attractive price.

Alternatively how about the Olympus OMD-E5? Again, second hand prices are falling a little as the new E1 has come out and people are migrating to that. I'm not too sure on the specs but I think it would do quite a bit of what you're looking for.
 
Setting aside DSLR bodies (limited MF aids, potential register distance issues with legacy lenses & size/weight), you are looking at 4 main mirrorless camera systems
  1. Micro 4/3's (m43). 2X crop factor, supported by both Olympus and Panasonic
  2. Sony APS-C NEX (1.5X crop factor)
  3. Fuji X-series - APS-C
  4. Sony A7/A7r full frame - very new and likely out of your price range
Disclosure of I am a Fuji and Olympus m43 user - I have very limited experience with the NEX. Some observations in no particular order

The Fuji system has, IMHO, the best image quality of the mirrorless cameras except for the new A7. It also has the highest quality native AF lenses. It is a rangefinder style body (but not an actual rangefinder) that is pretty retro in that it has actual knobs/dials for most basic exposure controls (including an aperture ring on the lenses). They have focus peaking and a simulated split image rangefinder, although the latter feature is not that impressive to my eye.

The recent m43 bodies (anything with a 16MP sensor in it) have the fastest AF performance (by a fair amount), the Olympus bodies have in-body image stabilization (IBIS), there is a pretty extensive selection of lenses available (many of which are quite good) and the cameras tend to have all the latest geeky bells and whistles. The only MF aid is magnification unless you get a recent body such as E-M1, E-P5 or GX7.

The NEX cameras are a little quirky (they drive more like a computer than a camera to me) and their native lens selection (AF) is rather pedestrian. They are said to have a particularly effective focus peaking implementation, but I have not compared it to the Fuji. While being APS-C, the IQ is really not any better than the current generation m43. The NEX 7 is 24MP but at the expense of noise.

Without knowing what "low cost" means to you, a Fuji X-E1 kit with the 18-55/2.8-4.0 lens (which is a really great zoom) either new or refurbed is a great value right now. The X-E2 just came out (and it is a better camera) and X-E1 prices are low. The X-E1 EVF is nice, but suffers from a significant refresh rate drop off as light levels go down. The rear LCD is OK but nothing spectacular. The X-E2 fixed both issues along with faster AF. The Fuji lenses are exceptional, although not inexpensive. One nice trick on the X-E1/X-E2 is that the pop-up flash can by held by a finger on your left hand to point upwards for bounce work. Not much power, but it comes in handy.

The E-M5 is another great bargain either refurbed or used. It offers a spectacularly effective IBIS system, a very good EVF, but no focus peaking at all - this might be a concern if you plan on extensive use of legacy lenses. It does not have a pop-up flash although it comes with a small hotshoe unit that is powered by the body.

I've never gotten on too well with the NEX cameras, so I'm not much more help there.

I'll say that I absolutely love my Fuji X-E2. I have been shooting for almost 40 years and currently use Olympus m43, Nikon D800 and the Fuji. The Fuji is by far my favorite camera to actually use and carry. There are a number of Fuji X users here on RPF for help, too.
 
One caution - if you are not experienced with digital cameras in general and the particular model you want to purchase, I would be careful about buying a used one from Ebay or the internet. You could get a camera and not realize something was not working properly right away, thus making returning it almost impossible. And of course Ebay has it's own set of problems (ask Rob about his recent horror story).
 
I'm glad someone has replied @Keith Hollister - I spotted this post from work, but I'm clueless. Literally. Everything you said has gone totally over my head. From my film days I understand focal lengths and apertures of course, but the rest might as well be in Chinese. I guess I'm lucky in that I won the Sony and I've been totally happy using it. I have absolutely no idea what is out there now and I shall remain blissfully ignorant :)
 
I'm glad someone has replied @Keith Hollister - I spotted this post from work, but I'm clueless. Literally. Everything you said has gone totally over my head. From my film days I understand focal lengths and apertures of course, but the rest might as well be in Chinese. I guess I'm lucky in that I won the Sony and I've been totally happy using it. I have absolutely no idea what is out there now and I shall remain blissfully ignorant :)

Well you have certainly gotten some great results from it Lesley, so I suspect your not nearly as clueless as you claim :) And it all goes to show that most recent DSLR's and mirrorless cameras are good enough, and the dufus (that probably translates into something like wanker for you Brits) behind the viewfinder is the main factor at this point - which is exactly like film was.

Stan - one more thought. I saw on your website that you use Gimp & Picasa. If you intend to continue with those as opposed to Lightroom, Capture One etc, you are probably going to be shooting JPG I would guess instead of raw. If so, the Fuji's are thought to have the best JPG engine as of today with the Olympus m43 cameras right behind them in second place.
 
Thank you good people for your time and trouble. I now have some excellent pointers, and am thinking along the Fuji lines. I have two rather low tech. Fuji digital pocket cameras and have been very impressed by them.
Thanks again.
 
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