Peter Blake
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no way! diligently tracking down a Minox film adapter for my Toyo 4x5 I am
Mamiya RB67 Pro SD - an Amateur's Diary
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no way! diligently tracking down a Minox film adapter for my Toyo 4x5 I am
Rob MacKillop
Edinburgh Correspondent
CD of images arrived fifteen minutes ago. After a quick look through, I have to say I was disappointed, though the fault is mine. It will take a little study to get on top of this camera. The black and white turned out better than the colour. I'm pushed for time, so here is what I think is the best shot from the batch.
What do you think of it? I've done absolutely nothing to it.
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Here is a link to its full size: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robmac1/8166552247/sizes/o/in/photostream/
What do you think of it? I've done absolutely nothing to it.
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Here is a link to its full size: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robmac1/8166552247/sizes/o/in/photostream/
Rob MacKillop
Edinburgh Correspondent
Be as critical as you like. I have not emotionally bonded with this camera yet, although it does raise a smile every time I look at it...
Rob MacKillop
Edinburgh Correspondent
Slower film for more contrast?
Rob MacKillop
Edinburgh Correspondent
Rob MacKillop
Edinburgh Correspondent
And another, Nik-ed
Not enough detail in the dark areas here, but in general I'm beginning to see some interest for me in combining film and digital processing, especially with the Nik effects. Seem to end up with something I couldn't achieve with either film or digital alone.
Not enough detail in the dark areas here, but in general I'm beginning to see some interest for me in combining film and digital processing, especially with the Nik effects. Seem to end up with something I couldn't achieve with either film or digital alone.
David Mitchell
Well-Known Member
I just loaded the first one on Flikr and I was like....epic negative size 
lol the detail is really really nice, but it is a tad grainy, the Nik-ed ones look good, much smoooother 
did you enjoy shooting on it though?
lol the detail is really really nice, but it is a tad grainy, the Nik-ed ones look good, much smoooother did you enjoy shooting on it though?
Rob MacKillop
Edinburgh Correspondent
Yes, grainy, as you say, David. I have Nik Dfine2 which is a degrainulator 
I actually really enjoyed shooting with it, and it has given me ideas for further shots, but I must do more homework and learn how to use it more effectively.
I actually really enjoyed shooting with it, and it has given me ideas for further shots, but I must do more homework and learn how to use it more effectively.
David Mitchell
Well-Known Member
Hehe that sounds like an awesome setting lol what ISO was the black and white btw? It seems a pretty cool camera to shoot, although seems to have a fair few buttons lol you going to get lots of different film backs for it to experiment?
what ISO was the black and white btw? It seems a pretty cool camera to shoot, although seems to have a fair few buttons lol you going to get lots of different film backs for it to experiment?
Rob MacKillop
Edinburgh Correspondent
400 ISO. Ilford HP5. I'll stick with one back for the time being! Life is complicated enough...
David Mitchell
Well-Known Member
Same as I have, once I get my negatives scanned in from the Bessa and the Kodak Six-20 we can compare, you might find that your camera gives a much sharper image meaning you see the grain and my 60+ year old camera lenses are softer so perhaps you don't see it - ie Nik'ed by the camera and not the computer lol will see what they are like when I get mine scanned.
Rob MacKillop
Edinburgh Correspondent
Looking forward to seeing your images, David.
David Mitchell
Well-Known Member
Same lol they probably won't be amazing as they are just test rolls, wasn't sure if the cameras were 100% fully working ie no light leaks, but will be interesting to compare.
Rob MacKillop
Edinburgh Correspondent
That's what mine were too. I had no idea what I was doing or if the camera worked at all. Well, you have to start somewhere...
Chris Dodkin
West Coast Correspondent
liking the scans + NIK - very nice look Rob
What's your take away from the first roll(s)?
Remember - I shot a whole roll with the lens cap on when I got the Fuji 6x9!
Here's the best from that set - PP in NIK Silver FX
What's your take away from the first roll(s)?
Remember - I shot a whole roll with the lens cap on when I got the Fuji 6x9!
Here's the best from that set - PP in NIK Silver FX
Rob MacKillop
Edinburgh Correspondent
Well, I did better than the great Chris Dodkin!
I think there is promise. At the end of this month I start a course (four Tuesday evenings) on developing B&W film, and then will have use of the darkroom pretty much any time I want. The woman who runs the class is delighted that I'll be bringing along an MF camera.
I was surprised that the High Res images on the CD were only between 1 and 2 MB in size - considering the dimensions of the images, I was expecting 30 MBs or so. Not sure how that works.
I don't think I had the right speed of film for the light on the day. I'm wondering if 125 would have produced better contrast and detail. Not sure what the difference is between HP5, which I used, and, say, HP4?
The colour film images look dull and drab, really quite poor. I used Fuji Pro 400H. Nothing recoverable from them.
I like the sepia-ish version above, and think I will spend some time combining both disciplines.
I think there is promise. At the end of this month I start a course (four Tuesday evenings) on developing B&W film, and then will have use of the darkroom pretty much any time I want. The woman who runs the class is delighted that I'll be bringing along an MF camera.
I was surprised that the High Res images on the CD were only between 1 and 2 MB in size - considering the dimensions of the images, I was expecting 30 MBs or so. Not sure how that works.
I don't think I had the right speed of film for the light on the day. I'm wondering if 125 would have produced better contrast and detail. Not sure what the difference is between HP5, which I used, and, say, HP4?
The colour film images look dull and drab, really quite poor. I used Fuji Pro 400H. Nothing recoverable from them.
I like the sepia-ish version above, and think I will spend some time combining both disciplines.
Hamish Gill
Tech Support (and Marketing)
Who did the processing Rob?
the scans will be low as tey are really intended as like a contact print (I think)
you can ask for "pro scanning" which gets you a higher res!
Scanning at home will of course give you whatever res you want ... I scan mine at 3200dpi that gives 40mp ish eqiv files from memory.
Fp4 is finer grain than hp5, so probably more detail, but the lack of detail is in the quality of scan realy ...
hp5 is higher contrast ... Not sure why you have little contrast tbh someone who knows more might be able to tell you!
you will get a lot out of home deving Rob, I've only played with two chemicals and maybe 3 films and the variety of results from different variables is amazing!
the scans will be low as tey are really intended as like a contact print (I think)
you can ask for "pro scanning" which gets you a higher res!
Scanning at home will of course give you whatever res you want ... I scan mine at 3200dpi that gives 40mp ish eqiv files from memory.
Fp4 is finer grain than hp5, so probably more detail, but the lack of detail is in the quality of scan realy ...
hp5 is higher contrast ... Not sure why you have little contrast tbh someone who knows more might be able to tell you!
you will get a lot out of home deving Rob, I've only played with two chemicals and maybe 3 films and the variety of results from different variables is amazing!
Rob MacKillop
Edinburgh Correspondent
Joan did it, Hamish, and I asked for the Pro CD. I'll phone her later today to ask about the contrast, and recommendations, etc. The CD came with low, medium and high res images.
Stephen Baker
Well-Known Member
Nice looking RB67 Rob, I have recently purchased a Pro sd as well, to add to my other mamiya MF camera's and I have got to say it's probably my favourite camera to use at the moment.
Stephen.
Stephen.
Rob MacKillop
Edinburgh Correspondent
Hi Stephen, nice to have you here. Any advice from your experience would be much appreciated. Looking forward to getting out and about this weekend for more shots, but I still only have 400 film. It would be great to see some of your shots as well. Welcome to the forum!
