Pete Askew
Admin
I think he's having a relapse again Chris. RDS, (Rabbit Denial Syndrome). Manifested in seeing things that aren't there!
Slowly Falling Apart
- Thread starter Paul Lange
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Hamish Gill
Tech Support (and Marketing)
yeah whatever ... there is no rabbit!
back to the wikerman for a second ... did you ever hear the sneaker pimps version of the song from that scene where edward woodward is trying to get a bit of kip and that mad bint starts banging on the walls and stuff ...
great track [video=youtube;peug224n77E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peug224n77E[/video]
back to the wikerman for a second ... did you ever hear the sneaker pimps version of the song from that scene where edward woodward is trying to get a bit of kip and that mad bint starts banging on the walls and stuff ...
great track [video=youtube;peug224n77E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peug224n77E[/video]
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Paul Lange
Moderator
It's a very tenuous link to Boobies but I like it none the less even if I'm not sure where you're coming from Hamish.
Paul Lange
Moderator
I've blended t shots together to see if I can get the effect of having some detail in the broken glass and the frame. Cant make up my mind if its to obvious that I've done this but here it is anyway. More Bunny sacrifice or in someones case BOOBIES!
Hamish Gill
Tech Support (and Marketing)
Now that's the shot!!
I like that a lot mate, very nice indeed, makes a lot more sence to me that shot i couldn't quite get my head round the other version ... This is a huge improvement to my eye!
I like that a lot mate, very nice indeed, makes a lot more sence to me that shot i couldn't quite get my head round the other version ... This is a huge improvement to my eye!
Chris Dodkin
West Coast Correspondent
Paul - well worth the effort - that last blended shot is really atmospheric
Paul Lange
Moderator
Cheers guys, I was worried that it may have looked a little obvious that I had blended the shots but I think thats because I know that I have so I keeping looking for give aways that maybe arent there. I might have another tweak though AAARRGGGGHHH my head hurts!
Chris Dodkin
West Coast Correspondent
You're heading down the HDR photography route, which suspends 'reality' to produce hyper-real image blends.
It can be very effective, as it delivers the shot your brain saw, but a single image capture couldn't show.
Been tempted myself, but not made the plunge yet - although the magazine I get (Outdoor Photographer) was all over HDR the other month, as the best thing since sliced bread!
It can be very effective, as it delivers the shot your brain saw, but a single image capture couldn't show.
Been tempted myself, but not made the plunge yet - although the magazine I get (Outdoor Photographer) was all over HDR the other month, as the best thing since sliced bread!
Paul Lange
Moderator
I see a lot of HDR stuff on the web but I don,t like it very much. Blending shots to get otherwise impossible dynamic ranges is fine, I feel. However there are loads of quite frankly boring shots that have been made to look more interesting than they are by the OTT application of the various adjustments HDR software gives. Effects when used properly are there not for show but to filter out or enhance aspects of the image so that the viewer can see on a 2d image what caught the photographers eye in the real 3d world. I have never thought that the random application of effects holds much merit. Much of HDR these days was born out of just that. Penny farthings drawn out in gold twine on black velvet was all the rage in the 70's. Nowadays they are something best left forgotten. It wouldn't surprise me if much of the over stylised HDR goes the same way and what remains is the considered use of HDR to overcome the technical shortcomings of the media, pretty much what it the reason why HDR came about in the first place decades ago.
Just my IMHO 2pence worth!
Just my IMHO 2pence worth!
Paul Lange
Moderator
Had another go at the masking:
Paul Lange
Moderator
Looking at both I like the edges better but I think I overdone it with the grain! Oh Crap!
Pete Askew
Admin
Personally I think the grain is fine. The only thing I find a bit distracting is the very bright top frame and the LH side. What about burning them in a touch or maybe even reducing the top a bit?
Hamish Gill
Tech Support (and Marketing)
Your doing my trick Paul, getting your self in a fuss with indecision ... Sometimes I get so obsessed with an image the only way to work out what is best for it is to leave it well alone for a few days and then come back to it with fresh eyes!
Pete Askew
Admin
I totally agree. This is what I always force myself to do in the darkroom. It's easy to get obsessed with tweaking detail and making subtle variations in prints. Two days later, however, and, as often as not, you can't even see the subtle adjustments you made let alone work out why you were making them. Leave it alone for a few days and then if you feel compelled to fiddle, try going back tot he original file and re-working it from scratch: you'll either end up back where you were or have a totally different interpretation on your hands!
Pete Askew
Admin
Hamish, you should stood your subjects with a view behind so you could captured the view through their eyepieces!
Paul Lange
Moderator
I know what you guys mean, I got in a similar rut with the Watchpoint photo that you guys gave me a lot of help on. I realised this morning that part of the problem was in the actual shot and not masking. I've gone back to the raw images and started again but I think you're right, I should go slow on this so I can see the wood for the trees.
Hamish Gill
Tech Support (and Marketing)
The cameras in my sig?
Paul Lange
Moderator
I've neatened up the masking on the broken window and toned the CP right down as I though it was a bit over stylised. What do people think? I cant make my mind up if I like the heavier CP or this more tamer look,
Paul Lange
Moderator
Fair point Vic. I've just tried another rehash with a few tweaks to the CP. I'm wondering if I should re shoot it with the window frame in the shot and blend the image with 2 exposures rather than 2 images. I drive past the place every day so not a problem to do. This is closer to what I want I think.
