thanks chaps, I have been around a little only when the aliens let me though. Yes it is Dungeness Pete I do like it down there, seems I'm always lucky with shots when I visit there. Myself and Alix when for a little visit there a few weeks back. The target was really Samphire Hoe but we went here first, sky was rather boring and a hour or so before the good light, but I managed to get a few that I'm reasonably happy with.