Which film?

Rob MacKillop

Edinburgh Correspondent
Some advice, please, on film for 35mm cameras. In the UK, where is the best place to buy? What is regarded as good film? What difference can different films make? Recommendations for colour and for B&W? And anything else I should know...?

Rob
 
I bought some today from Ag Photographic. The Specialists for all traditional photo products.
I've not ordered from them before, but there is a lot on there even some seemingly harder to get hold of stuff
I bought some infrared Rollei film today ... Should be fun :)

Anyway... Ilford hp5 is a good start for black and white, but costly to process if you aren't going to do it our self
Ilford XP2 b&w can be deved on the high street in anywhere that does colour dev
Then for colour film Fuji x-tra Superior is pretty good and easy to get hold of
But really, you can't go far wrong with brand film ...
Kodak is warmer toned
Fuji cooler with good greens ... As a rule of thumb ...
 
Can't say anything about where to buy, since I'm over here in USA.

I'm a big fan of Kodak film.

For color I like Ektar and Portra. The Portra is often lauded for its latitude, meaning that you can get good results even when under or overexposing by a stop or two, and its higher speeds (I think it comes in 160, 400 and 800 ASA, as opposed to Ektar's 100) might be better for shooting in Scottish gloom.


For BW Kodak Tri-X (400 ASA) is a workhorse that turns out consistantly good results. Kodak Plus-X (125 ASA) also if you can get it. However, I think it has been discontinued.

It may be hard to find somehere to get BW developed, though. (I do my own.) So another option for BW is the Kodak BW400CN. It can be processed anywhere that processes C-41 (ie., color) films, such as Boots or whoever.

Ilford also has a BW that can be processed in C-41, its called XP2 Super but I've never used it.

Fuji also has a BW that can be processed in C-41, it's called Neopan 400CN. I haven't used it.

Of course, Ilford and Fuji also make traditional BW films.

I'm shooting Fomapan 100 at the moment. It's made in Czech Republic and I really like it.

Films all have different characteristics, Rob. Some are more grainy than others, for example. Or some are more contrasty. Some have more "punchy" colors, and others are more muted in tone.

There's a lot to know, and part of the beauty of shooting film is discovering for yourself what you like by shooting with different films. The above is just a drop in the bucket, but I hope it helps a wee bit.
 
Some advice, please, on film for 35mm cameras. In the UK, where is the best place to buy?

I will leave that one to UK members. In Canada, my neighborhood drug-store for consumer films, camera stores for pro films.

What is regarded as good film?

In the past, there were some stores that had house brands, and there was no way to tell where they got the stuff. Pure gamble on quality. Now as then, you are safe with Fuji, Ilford and Kodak. Once you are comfortable with these, by all means try off-brands for experience, but realize your mileage may vary.

What difference can different films make?Recommendations for colour and for B&W? And anything else I should know...?

Vast differences were once possible, but perhaps not as much now. With consumer colour negative films, the sensitivity may vary, but results depend more on the skill of the person doing your prints than on the film itself. Film from any of the suppliers above will yield satisfactory results.

The primary difference between consumer films and pro films are that pro-films are aged to the point that colour is at its optimum, at which point they are refrigerated. It is recommended that pro-films are brought up to temperature just prior to the shoot, and processed immediately. Consumer films are more forgiving, and photo-processors giggle at the fact that there may be more than one Christmas tree on a roll. Pro films are not necessarily better, just more predictable when highly precise results are demanded under completely controlled circumstances. Professional photographers shot a whole lot of consumer-level film.

Colour negatives exist for the purpose of prints, and that is the case for B&W as well. Chrome films yield transparencies and are primarily used for projection and reproduction in magazines or commercial art. Negative films have considerable latitude, allowing for some overexposure and underexposure, while transparency films tend to be very unforgiving.

There are also specialized films that are not aimed at general photography, but they would not be available except by special order through pro-level camera stores. They are designed for things like forensics, astrophotography, surveillance, super high-contrast and that sort of thing. You are unlikely to find any by accident.

For colour, Kodak or Fujifilm from a neighborhood retail store is a good place to start. It can be processed at any photofinishing company, one hour lab and that sort of thing.

For B&W I would recommend Ilford XP-2, which uses colour film technology to produce a highly forgiving monochrome film. The advantage is that it can be processed by any photofinisher, along with colour film. With traditional B&W, it has become difficult to find any lab that will still process it, at least on this side of the pond. If you are really enthusiastic, it can be processed and printed in a home darkroom.
 
Well said Brian!
Buy film, shoot film, decide of you like it ... Try something else
Note the stuff you like!

To recap on the b&w film you can get deved anywhere as if it was colour
Kodak BW400CN
Fuji Neopan 400CN
Ilford XP2
That's what I would stick to for the time being if you want to shoot b&w

Otherwise, as Brian says just experiment,
Out of date colour film can be fun, the colours go a bit whacky ...
 
For me:

35mm B&W Ilford PanF and XP2

35mm Colour - Fuji Reala 100 - scans really nicely - discontinued in the UK, available Amazon.com :(
 
Rob,...here's an interesting article about Kodak Portra 400 film.

http://www.shutterbug.com/content/kodak-portra-400-latitude-grain-and-“scanability”-combined

Also,...something else I was thinking about. Films that are not name brand,...in other words, films sold under the name of Boots or Jessop or ASDA or something,...generally you can guess at what it is by checking out where its made. If in Japan its Fuji. If in USA its Kodak. (Nobody else makes film in Japan or USA but Fuji and Kodak. At least not to my knowledge.)

For example, I've used a lot of "Memories" brand film. I can get a 24 exposure roll for $1 US. It's what I use to test newly purchased cameras and also in my cheap little Vivitar with the flipped lens. The Memories film is made in Japan. And although it doesn't say "Fuji" on the negs, it has the same colored stripes motif on the edges.

I also use a lot of film from a company called Freestyle. They sell films under their own brand name, but it's widely held to be Kodak, or Fuji or EFKE or something. Educated guesswork is done by identifying the country of origin.
 
Eh Brian, I couldn't find portra 800 until I was shown that AG photographic ... They have it there! I have ordered some! I'm very tempted, reading what it says on thier site to push some to 1600... Have you tried?
 
I could have sworn you said those backstage shots with the nice blues were 800... going mad i am ...

Carlos who I bought the fuji gs645s has sent me some of the 160nc to play with, im going to load a roll into it now!
I have used fuji for so long im quite looking forward to using kodak!
 
I could have sworn you said those backstage shots with the nice blues were 800... going mad i am ...

They were shot using Kodak's Ultramax 800, Hamish. The Ultramax is a consumer grade film. (I think Larry mentioned something about the differences between the consumer and professional grade films when he responded yesterday.) I think the Ultramax 800 produces lovely colors. (And I discovered last night that Walgreen's, a pharmacy chain here in the US, has a coupon for a box of 4 Ultramax 800 for $6.99, which is a great deal. Going to see if there's any left today.)
 
Hi Rob, Have you tried 7dayshop.com- They have good stocks of colour print and reversal film in 35mm and 120mm, also
black and white at very good prices.They are very reliable, I have used them for many years for all photo goods, for film
and digital, also good for printer ink Epson etc. John Codd
 
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