Hello from Georgia, USA

George Hazelton

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I happened across this forum Googling for filters, etc for my new baby, a Voigtlander Vitessa L. I believe it was Hamish who pictured his, along with his Retina IIa.

This looks like a congenial place! Requiring the use of real names seems like a good idea and should avoid much of the rancor one sees on other (not to be named!) fora where virtual flame wars all too often require the intervention of administrators.

A little bit about me: I began photography in my early teens with my Mother's ancient 120 folder. Bought a second-hand Retina 1, followed by a Japanese rf, then a 127 Komaflex-S, later a Praktica LTL, then a Pentax K1000, MX, LX, a Retina IIIc and 645n with a good kit of lenses, etc. Latest cameras a Busch 2x3 press camera and the Voigtlander Vitessa L.

My father smoothed my entry to the hobby. He had processed and printed photos in the 1930s; I have many of his negatives and early Kodachrome slides from those days! We had a darkroom, BW developing and printing, mixing our own Beutler film developer (he was a chemical engineer so lab work held no terrors) and processing Ektachrome.

Career demands and childrearing demands (my daughter Rebecca has just finished her PhD in creative writing) seemed to force my reliance on commercial photofinishing, so for many years I shot only slides and negative color. At least that's my excuse!

And now really good enlargers are available inexpensively!

With free time available from my retirement from library work, I'm returning to the "dark side" with a second-hand Beseler 23C in the upstairs bath, courtesy of my most forgiving wife!

Since I have the scale my Father and I used to weigh out Metol etc I plan to roll my own. I have inherited his Asahiflex IIb (the one that looks like a screw-mount Leica) several lenses, extension tubes, bellows, and his Pentax ME-Super. I hope to get the Asahiflex repaired and shoot some for old times' sake.

As they say, the fruit doesn't fall too far from the tree.
 
Welcome George, a great indroduction there, I'm sure you'll enjoy this forum like no other. I know a very experienced guy on here who'll definatley have endless conversations with you regarding film developement and classic cameras, you'll soon find out....... ;) hope you enjoy this friendly place.
 
Hi George
Big welcome to the forum!
Really good to have a another film photog on here who enjoys the vintage gear!

I mostly shoot digital, but see film and my vintage cameras as a way to get back to a bit of hands on photography!
Pete Askew (who I think Dan is talking about) frequently comments that the joy of film is in the serendipity, and I have to agree with him for the most part!
My main draw is the fact that it makes me use my brain and not the cameras to take a photo!

Im no where near your level with dev and printing by the sounds of it! Quite comfortable developing my e6 films in the kitchen but beyond that a Epson v500 scanner is my next port of call!
Will be interesting to see your shots!

Should you feel the urge, you are more than welcome to post your thoughts on some of these vintage cameras and bits you you in the same way as I (and chris and pete) have. We make our articles for the ezine from forum threads from any member who is interested in contributing that sort of thing!

As for the forum and the real name thing. It seems to be working quite well in keeping away the argumentative type and axe grinders! Most people who join seem, like your self, to apreciate why we did the real name thing and seem to be pretty keen on adding to the forum in the friendly way we are all after ... So, so far so good! Glad to have another member who understands ethos etc :)
 
Many thanks, Hamish!

I "do" digital via a Pentax K10d and Epson V700 scanner and Epson R1800 printer, the latter at the moment out of order. Digital is wonderful in its sphere, but I have yet to see a BW print from digital that I felt was worthy. For example a few weeks ago a nearby museum had a large exhibit - 130+- of Ansel Adams prints, either by his hand or under his supervision, all silver fiber base. My wife Flora and I were entranced.

In another part of the museum were some inkjet photos by a very competent shooter. We both noted the lack of "depth" or whatever of the injet compared to the silver gelatin prints by Adams.

Your comments on my darkroom skills are far too kind! I am struggling to return to where I was 30 years ago; it is appalling to look at enlargements made then and wonder "how in h*** did I do that?" and why can't I do it again! Got some work to do!

One of the aspects of "vintage" gear is the sheer tactile pleasure of handling these old warriors! My Pentax LX is a marvelous, heavy, chunk of metal and glass. Everything feels good. Same with the Vitessa and Retina IIIc. Much as does my wife Flora's 25 year old Bernini sewing machine. There is a sense of continuity with vintage gear - or perhaps vintage wives! - which newer models, despite all the bells and whistles, cannot equal. Please, don't quote me on the spousal comment!
 
Welcome to the club George - looking forward to hearing tales of you re-disovering your darkroom mojo, and of course, seeing some of the results.

The mix of vintage and cutting edge, with members old enough to remember film, and those young enough to have never bought a vinyl record, makes for a very lively and entertaining place.

Saw what I suspect was the same Ansel Adams exhibition here in San Diego, and was immensely impressed - well worth a visit for anyone that has it coming to their area.
 
Hello and welcome
 
The jury is still out with digital vs film for me in terms of quality ... And I think always will be...
I personally don't find digital lacking, but I think really it is a matter of taste and individual perception, subject matter, skill of artist etc etc that divide people on the subject... And really where people form a solid elegance tends to be through what they know the best!

Really it baffles me that people feel the need for a digi vs analogue argument within photography or any other area for that matter ... These things take away from the joys of appreciating the hobby ... and the art!

The funny thing is, a lot of those who will tell you that one is better than the other will also spout the old adage about "it's not the camera, it's the photographer" ... Without realising it is really a contradiction!

In my opinion it doesnt matter what an image is shot with, how it is processed, who made it, or even really it's quality! If the end product is an expression of what the artist intended it to be, then it has fulfilled it's perpous as a photo. If other people get something out of it - some enjoyment, or even just a reaction then that is a bonus!

That for me is what a "real photographer" is, someone who takes photos, has a desire to learn to get better, and enjoys doing it ... Not someone who worries endlessly about what camera, format etc etc they use!

The camera is a tool! understanding how to use the tool, having an appreciation of the tool, caring for the tool is nessasary!

Which brings me to.... I couldn't agree with you more about the tactile appreciation of vintage kit! There really is something lovely about leather wrapped bits of metal with a bunch of gears and cogs engineered so well that they all work together 70 years after they were put together!

The thing is though, I love the technology of modern gear! The fact I can take photos basically in the dark with my d3 is something I'd never give up!
I would say that in the same way as there is a place for film and a place digital the is a place for low tech and high tech, a place for vintage a modern ...
There is a place for chocolate and a place for cheese after all! :)
 
There is a place for chocolate and a place for cheese after all! :)

That would be the stomach Hamish!

Welcome to the forum George. Dont't mind my sense of humour.

My first real Camera was a Box, then a Pentax K100. Later I moved over to Nikon with an FE, the F601, F70 and was given an old leather and steel folding camera. I no longer have the Pentax or FE. I used to have the Box, Folding and one of the Nikons in a cabinet in the dining room. A homage to the development of the equipment. Sadly I was overulled and they are now boxed. I may get them out again on display..............spousal approval required.
 
Heh yes!
Sorry, was in a bit of a ranty mood when I wrote that! ;)

Get em out and take photos of them Milan, you know you want to!
Did you see I just bought a Nikon D100 that's been converted to ir...
I'd be interested to see some results from a non converted one ;)
I must get those shots I took with the 18-55 lens up for you! I took a few on the d3 with it... Worked quite well I thought, very supprising what the centre 5mp of a d3 sensor can churn out even with what is basically a low end lens!
(excuse the thread drift)
 
I'll dig them out and take some pictures of the cameras with the D100. Best put it in a seperate thread though.

Sorry George!
 
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