Panoramic Vintage Cameras

Fidel Marcus

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Hi everyone
For a while now I've had a desire to dust off my old FTb canon & take it in for a reseal and cleaning along with my lenses then have some fun with film for a while (it has been quite some time) but lately I've found myself gravitating to something different and more exciting so my research has lead me to panoramic larger film & the most practical & most interesting I've come across is 6x9 on roll film, specifically the vintage folding cameras.

I currently own a No. 2 Brownie but more superior models like Zeiss Ikon & Voigtlander have caught my eye

Anyone have experience with such formats? any sample shots?
 
I have recently bought a voigtlander Bessa I ... Lovely camera!
Have a roll to finish of shots down by the river which I have high hopes for!

Brian also has a Bessa and he ha shots he has taken with it!
 
wow I must see
whoever has scanned images please :D

I just took a look at your R2a setup by the way, how do you like that thing? how does it compare to the common canon 35mm?
by common I mean AE-1 & the likes...
 
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I know how you feel, Fidel. Here are a few I took with my Voigtlander Bessa. It's a 1939 (or thereabouts) vintage camera. These images (the 1st two and the last) are on Kodak BW400CN (expired) which I cross-processed in Rodinal. Image 3 is Tri-X processed in Rodinal.

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nice, even with expired film it produced very good tones.
just curious, is the overexposed line on the left a light leak in the bellows or something?
 
is the overexposed line on the left a light leak in the bellows or something?

I think the answer is "or something". It doesn't happen conistantly (as you can see from the images I've posted) so I don't think it's a leak in the bellows, Fidel.
 
I'm noticing that unless I spend $300-400 on a very clean Zeiss Super Ikonta or something similar I will have to worry about the condition & possible repairs anything else might need simply because of the age of these cameras, my autographic no. 2 certainly needs some work before I can run a roll through it so I'm not sure what to do lol

same money can buy me a decent 35mm rangefinder + maybe 1 lens which could possibly be in better shape but that still keeps me out of 6x9 film world, choices choices oh how frustrating....
 
I got my Voigtlander very reasonably off E-bay. Granted, it doesn't have the top notch lens available at the time,...but the shutter was the top one and the camera was in immaculate condition. So,...it's possible to get something decent for far less than you quote Fidel. However, you may have to exercise patience until the right thing comes along.
 
Little bit of a review here of the r2a

http://www.realphotographersforum.com/content/387-voigtlander-bessa-r2a-review.html

it's a different experience to using an slr really, lighter, quieter, smaller ...
The only disadvantage of them is they are not so good with long lenses, but you perhaps know this already?

I paid £50 for my Bessa with the 105 4.5 vaskar ... That's about right for this lens, and there is a cheaper one with a vogitar 6.3 lens ...
I'd go for both! Look to buy a cheaper Bessa I and a RF, you will use the RF more anyway no doubt ...

As for the RF, if you got a R2 (not r2a) you could save a bit of money... They are LTM mount and don't have aperture priority so don't fetch so much money! Add a Jupiter-8 lens and you could be set up with both cameras for c.£250 :)
 
I think I'm going to go down the 6x9 frame folding camera route first as I have never shot on anything that large before and I'm very very eager to go beyond 35mm for a try, but beyond that I think I am going to find myself a Canon P rangefinder, everyone on the web seems to say that it is nearly indestructible and takes Leica screw mount lenses which puts many great lenses at my disposal;

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Once I do have this I will be doing a full on head to head comparison against an SLR & see if I can get the SLR get close to matching the image sharpness of a rangefinder :D

for now I will shop for the best 6x9 folding camera my budget can afford and I will of course share my findings and images with you guys once I get my hands on it :D
 
here's something related, any thoughts on plate cameras? 9x12 is so BIG haha
 
here's something related, any thoughts on plate cameras? 9x12 is so BIG haha

If you are thinking glass plates like the old banquet cameras, they would be an epic pain in every way. Some people like pain.

Not I, and while I have not ever sworn off film, it has been a long time since I last shot a roll. I used an XL Graflex as my medium-format super-wide for many years until a writer dropped it into a 'gator-infested pool along the St. Johns River in Florida. The Graflex had a 47mm Schneider SuperAngulon and interchangeable backs of 6×6, 6×7 and 6×9 as well as Polariod packs that were roughly 3¼×4¼, where I used PN material providing an instant print and very fine grain negative.

The insurance money bought me a used Brooks VeriWide 100 which was about a 6×10—seven exposures on 120 film. It too had the same 47mm lens. It served me throughout my career from that point, with countless shots in newpapers and magazines, as well as shoots for some of North America's top developers and most prominent Dallas architects. It gives lie to the idea that you need the most up-to-date and stylish camera to attract big day-rates. It was made in the 1950s and looks it. I sold it to another working photographer for about what I paid for it, and I assume it is still at work. Fuji, Alpa, Linhof and Horseman had functionally identical models in production until recently, and to the best of my knowledge they may still be in production. I have not recently checked. Shown is a recent Horseman 6×12.
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The Widelux 140 (lower left) is a true panoramic camera with a 6×2.4 format. It uses 35mm film which actually wraps around a curved film plane. The lens swivels. It too paid for itself many times over. I had a chance to bid on the Linhof 70—which is 6×7—in a bankruptcy sale. I bid very low and got it. It too has a SuperAngulon, but a 65mm in this case—wide, but not superwide on 6×7. Press and technical cameras of the time can be a very good deal due to their extreme flexibility and the fact that lenses are interchangeable. As you might expect, the Linhof is built like a tank and heavily over-engineered with "great precision".

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ot to be ignored are Fuji's "Texas Leicas". Rangefinder cameras in 4.5×6, 6×7 and 6×9 with Fujinon lenses of astonishing quality. All self-contained with both wide angle and standard lens models. In many ways, they are much like film predecessors of the current gem, the digital X100. I also have a lovely little Zeiss SuperIconta BX, which was in essence a folding Rollei—same lens and shutter in a much smaller package. My favorite travel camera—also not superwide—is my Plaubel Makina 67. A crazy-great f/2.8 80mm Nikkor in a folding mount.

For superwide now, it is the much superior multiple exposures and stitching with the D700. With the X100 and its built in pano-mode, it is almost like having a digital WideLuxe as a bonus. With stitching, you get lenses much superior to medium-format and unlimited dimensions. One of the panos on this page is 75MP.
Panoramas and Macros via Zoom.It.com
 
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