Sigma SD1

Hamish Gill

Tech Support (and Marketing)
Sigma SD1

For ultimate image quality, the revolution starts here, the Sigma SD1. Paradigm breaking, epoch making, liberating

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looks interesting, but really i have no idea what to say about this camera ... i have no experience of sigma's cameras but thier approach to sensors interests me ...

The 46MP direct image sensor of the SD1 is a breakthrough that triples the 14MP resolution of the sensor used in Sigma cameras up to now, while retaining the "emotional image quality" that is unique to a full-color capture system. We enlarged the sensor to APS-C size (1.5x focal length equivalent), while narrowing pixel pitch, thereby dramatically raising the pixel count to 46MP (4,800 x 3,200 x 3).

anyone have any real life experience of sigmas cameras?

the one thing i remember about the sd14 was the really odd choice of photos for the marketing champaign ... it was a photo of someone's face that looked like it was made of wax ... anyone remember?
 
I really liked the idea behind the Foveon sensor with its film-like approach. But I have read so many reviews telling about odd casts and other issues that I have always been put off them. It will be interesting to see what the reviews have to say about this new version. I was really attracted to the DP1 / 2 but the reviews were very mixed with all saying it was slow and odd in low light - so I ended up going with the Ricoh GR Digital as a pocketable compact.
 
Given that expensive pro cameras are really all about the lens system available - why even bother going Sigma?

They must be nuts putting this camera out at that price point - IMHO of course
 
Yep, that no battery could be a real downer - like Christmas morning when your parents forgot to buy the AAs!
 
Given that expensive pro cameras are really all about the lens system available - why even bother going Sigma?

They must be nuts putting this camera out at that price point - IMHO of course

My thoughts exactly my mate, and it's not like anyone is going to make 3rd party lenses ... I do wonder though if sigma lenses really shine on sigma cameras???
 
Very mixed feelings. I copped an assignment from a Brit hi-tech magazine to cover the Foveon introduction back in 2002. The Foveon hype-machine was working overtime. Getting straight answers was like interviewing slick politicians who make statements not related to the question and act like the question was answered. If their hype was to be believed, we all would have been shooting with Foveon sensors for more than the past half-dozen years—all the major camera companies were beating on their door, or so it was hinted.

In theory, it should have meant the end of the Beyer mosaic that we all use. In practice it was underwhelming, odd colour, clipped colours, short exposures only, no end of problems. Under a narrow range of circumstances it was capable of outstanding image quality, showing its potential but seldom achieving it.

I tried to get an answer about whether the sensor would scale. It was 3.34MP and by 2002, 5-6MP cameras were sprouting in profusion. The answer I got is that "our pixels are the best in the industry..." stuff like that, which did not answer the question. Eventually, someone in marketing got the bright idea to use the sensor pixel count rather than the resolution of the image they produced. Since there were three layers of sensors at any given site, they multiplied by three and suddenly had an industry leading 10MP camera—that still delivered 3.34MP images.

They are still at it, claiming it is a 46MP camera, chasing the medium format cameras with its APS-C sized sensor. If they actually have achieved the potential of the Foveon design, it could very well be worth the asking price. Every pixel with a Beyer mosaic sensor is interpolated with the pixels around it. Anti-aliasing filters are required, which reduce sharpness more. There is no need to use an anti-aliasing filter and the Foveon image does not need to be de-mosaiced. Even at an honest 15MP, it could well be printable at sizes and qualities comparable to medium format sensors. We will see when the reviewers have tested it. A jump from the 4.7MP in the SD15 to an honest 15MP is a huge jump—specially considering how slowly it developed over the past decade or better part thereof.

Sigma lenses tend to be optically very good, though QA issues exist and mounts can leave a bit to be desired. I don't for a moment think that this camera will make or break Sigma. On the other hand, if they actually do have the sensor's problem sorted out, their hype about other manufacturers beating on their door in 2002 just might happen a decade later. It is a brilliant design in theory, but on the other hand, the Beyer mosaic, with all its theoretical weaknesses certainly does deliver the goods.
 
Hi Larry, that was an interesting and informative answer, for myself anyway. I'm very new to digital photography and need all the help I can get.
 
I agree Larry, that was a view pointed out to me a few years back ... But I do wonder what the likes of Sony could produce with their r&d funds should they get into such an idea ... But like with the switch from CCD to CMOS I bet a lot of it is down to costs ... The favon idea is, and this is purly speculation based on personal cynicism is probably stunted and unlikely to get very far because of costs of production over bayer mosaic CMOS type sensors ... Any truth in that do you think Larry?
 
I expect that the Foveon sensor is extremely expensive to manufacture. From 2002 to 2010 it only increased in size from 3.34MP to 4.7MP. The SD1 was announced in September 2010 and will not be shipping until the end of June—if then. With a price of nearly $10k US, I expect that the bulk of the cost is in the development and manufacture of the sensor. The rest of the camera's specifications seem to be very consumer-level. I expect the degree of difficulty in making this camera is staggering.

On the other hand, if it is a major leap in superiority over the Bayer mosaic, then it could well revolutionize camera design. Clearly, it has that potential. The competition seems to be the D3x and 1Ds and medium-format backs. That is a tough neighborhood in which to play.
 
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