New Flickr layout

To get a sense of a terabyte, I began digital photography 13 years ago, and in that time shot RAW from as early as it was available. In my photos folder, I have 104,443 files and have only used 90% of a terabyte—908GB. With high-quality, screen-resolution JPEGs, a terabyte could hold a million images at an average of 1MB per image file.
 
I looked at the revised Flickr site on my iPad using Safari. I'm not bothered by the change except that trying to get to a photo to copy the url doesn't always work properly. I'm wondering if they took into account how many tablets there are that will use the website instead of the specific Flickr app?
 
Well, I've taken a longer look and I hate it. I hate it for the "in your face", "must look like everything else" and "bigger must mean better" attitude. I could come home from a very long day (normally 5.20 a.m. to 8.30 p.m.), sit in front of the PC and dabble in what used to be a community. I could see if someone had added one of my images as a favourite and I would take a look at their photostream. I could see if someone added me as a contact and I would look at their profile and add them too. I could choose how I wanted my images to be displayed and I chose to have them with breathing space. They weren't all taken together. They aren't all of a similar subject. They aren't all colour, or all pure black and white, or all of a similar tone.

I hate the attitude that assumes everyone has a large monitor, or good connection speed, or a mobile phone, or whatever people use to view these cloned sites now. I hate it because like everything that used to be good seems to be heading the same way these days. Betray your loyal customers and tell them if they don't like it, they know where to find the door. I get enough of that at work, thank you very much.

I've had enough from Nik/Google, Adobe and now Flickr. Google took something awesome and will like as not trash it for the sake of some little app (is that what Snapseed is?) so they can compete with the other big giant who spent silly sums of money on Instagram. (Feel free to correct me here - I lost interest some time ago and may well have lost the plot). Adobe must be laughing all the way to the bank with their latest stunt. Tie everyone in to a subscription (and make those of us in Europe pay at least double - how can they argue it's for the packaging, postage and import duties now?) and drip feed them updates that they don't want or need, but hey... they have to find some excuse to keep raising the price.

So now it's Flickr and I feel stupid that I should have seen it coming. They won't listen of course - have you seen the complaints? And not a staff member in sight. Isn't that just like Nik when they sold out to Google? I won't stay around to be a product for the advertisers...
 
I certainly sympathise with some of your disappointment / frustration Lesley. So far Nik is still Nik (and still answer the phone in 2 rings) and I have hopes that the product will continue just as Sketchup did (and improved). Adobe's model doesn't suit much of my needs (from my company's stand point) but works for part and I will likely use a mix. I was not happy about what Photobucket did (similar to Flickr in many ways) but have got around much of the stuff that, for me, was worse and don't do social network stuff apart from RPF and so I'm not missing any of the sharing bit. I enjoy sharing images here and the whole 'vibe' of the place and think it quite special. I can feel myself drifting more and more towards traditional / alternative processes for my personal work (and as long as I can scan and share that, I need little in the way of imaging software). At the moment demands on my time dictate that I shoot a lot more on digital media but that will change at some point. For my work I need little actual image processing power for the presentation of images and when I do it is through image analysis etc and so commercial / technical decisions drive what I need.

I often find the need to take a deep breath, sit back and look at what is going on objectively and decide what I want to get involved with. Change is fine and, we keep telling ourselves, inevitable, desirable etc. But sometimes it doesn't feel like that.
 
Lesley Jones said:
Well, I've taken a longer look and I hate it. I hate it for the "in your face", "must look like everything else" and "bigger must mean better" attitude. I could come home from a very long day (normally 5.20 a.m. to 8.30 p.m.), sit in front of the PC and dabble in what used to be a community. I could see if someone had added one of my images as a favourite and I would take a look at their photostream. I could see if someone added me as a contact and I would look at their profile and add them too. I could choose how I wanted my images to be displayed and I chose to have them with breathing space. They weren't all taken together. They aren't all of a similar subject. They aren't all colour, or all pure black and white, or all of a similar tone.

I hate the attitude that assumes everyone has a large monitor, or good connection speed, or a mobile phone, or whatever people use to view these cloned sites now. I hate it because like everything that used to be good seems to be heading the same way these days. Betray your loyal customers and tell them if they don't like it, they know where to find the door. I get enough of that at work, thank you very much.

I've had enough from Nik/Google, Adobe and now Flickr. Google took something awesome and will like as not trash it for the sake of some little app (is that what Snapseed is?) so they can compete with the other big giant who spent silly sums of money on Instagram. (Feel free to correct me here - I lost interest some time ago and may well have lost the plot). Adobe must be laughing all the way to the bank with their latest stunt. Tie everyone in to a subscription (and make those of us in Europe pay at least double - how can they argue it's for the packaging, postage and import duties now?) and drip feed them updates that they don't want or need, but hey... they have to find some excuse to keep raising the price.

So now it's Flickr and I feel stupid that I should have seen it coming. They won't listen of course - have you seen the complaints? And not a staff member in sight. Isn't that just like Nik when they sold out to Google? I won't stay around to be a product for the advertisers...
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Hi Lesley
I haven't had much time to look through the changes, so I may be way off here - but have you looked through the various display preferences / options? Perhaps there are things you can choose that would alleviate at least a few annoyances.

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Pete Askew said:
I certainly sympathise with some of your disappointment / frustration Lesley. So far Nik is still Nik (and still answer the phone in 2 rings) and I have hopes that the product will continue just as Sketchup did (and improved). Adobe's model doesn't suit much of my needs (from my company's stand point) but works for part and I will likely use a mix. I was not happy about what Photobucket did (similar to Flickr in many ways) but have got around much of the stuff that, for me, was worse and don't do social network stuff apart from RPF and so I'm not missing any of the sharing bit. I enjoy sharing images here and the whole 'vibe' of the place and think it quite special. I can feel myself drifting more and more towards traditional / alternative processes for my personal work (and as long as I can scan and share that, I need little in the way of imaging software). At the moment demands on my time dictate that I shoot a lot more on digital media but that will change at some point. For my work I need little actual image processing power for the presentation of images and when I do it is through image analysis etc and so commercial / technical decisions drive what I need.

I often find the need to take a deep breath, sit back and look at what is going on objectively and decide what I want to get involved with. Change is fine and, we keep telling ourselves, inevitable, desirable etc. But sometimes it doesn't feel like that.
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Interesting perspective Pete.
Although I have a Flickr account, I mainly use it to post here. I'm just not too interested in having my photographs online. I prefer prints. This may change, but if I share online I prefer it to be a forum where doing so is interesting and useful.
One thing I've noticed in this thread is that regardless of the viewpoints expressed, they are all rational. Some of the other stuff I've seen online is a bit hysterical, and sometimes based on misinformation. This thread has also been useful in that it offers I sights into what others are doing online.
 
I used to use Flickr to upload to RPF. Then one day I deleted a few foties from Flickr and, lo,...they were gone from RPF, too. (I erroneously thought once I reached my 200--I do not have a pro account--I had to delete some to make room for new ones.) So I started using Photobucket for uploading to RPF. Did that for a long while before a couple of RPFrs, Paul I think, and maybe H, remarked that you could just keep yer foties in sets on Flickr and they could be seen even if you were past the 200. So I went back to Flickr as my upload-to-RPF machine. However, a month or two ago I opened a Zenfolio account, and now I use that to upload to RPF. I still post to Flickr, but only to post. I no longer use Photobucket.

I mention all of this only because Stephen remarked that it was interesting to see what others are doing online.
 
Is it possible to show photos here without embedding from somewhere else? I don't mean by using the image icon - that just presents miniature versions, which then have to be clicked on. And if you have a number of images, they all come up at once.
 
Yes to that Rob. I have a folder called RPF hidden behind my web site and they show full size. The originals are filed in a separate folder and I use them on my desktop. Childish I know, but it keeps me happy. We don't have much usable wall space here (old, wood panelled dining room and upstairs is in the roof space), so it's the only way I get to see my images framed.

I'm still not happy about the way things are going. Ooooh look! People are into photography these days, so let's make money out of them. Wasn't it Google who sidled up to our government to push through this orphan bill? I don't like the way it's all about money. People are saying if you find your "orphan" photo being used for something, that you can claim the money, but I don't want to sell full stop. I have sold in the past from a London exhibition and I was in two minds about it. It's like selling my pets! I'm not that precious about what I do as I've given images away before, but that's still my choice.

We're busy at home today, but I'm going to think very carefully about Flickr. I don't socialise as such, but if someone is kind enough to mark me as a contact and I reciprocate, then we've still formed a kind of bond. I would also miss the images I have marked as favourites because they lift my spirits and provided inspiration. I really don't like the rest of it though. We got big on the back of your support and now we can treat you like dirt. As I said... I get enough of that at work. (Not the lovely people I work with I have to add - just the organisation) :(
 
I just type:

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The new layout is driving me nuts - nothing is where it used to be!

Sure I'll get used to it eventually

Seems to take more clicks to get to what I need though
 
Not a fan.

Seems I'm having to keep scrolling or changing views to get where I want, am I missing it or are we stuck with this a a default view?
 
I've noticed if you click the "Edit" button it changes to looking a little bit more like it used to.
 
Glen Roberts said:
I've noticed if you click the "Edit" button it changes to looking a little bit more like it used to.
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But only on your own profile, for contacts recent uploads I have to scroll down and down, maybe OK if you have fibre optic connection but my broadband isn't very fast living out in the stix down in the 'shire....may just not bother with it..
 
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