Amazing colour footage 65years on

[Thomas brookes]

Victory in Japan celebrations on honolulu I found this video amazing to watch.

Also could any video buffs tell me what type of film cameras the us army would of used or been issued with. Or if they where personal items what kind of thing would they have used?

I'm looking at getting something for re-enactment maybe a broken one I can stick a mini cam in

http://vimeo.com/5645171

 

[Chris Dodkin]

What a great find Tom!

The camera shown in the first few seconds of the film may be the same type used to shoot the sequence - we don't know for sure.

I'm pretty certain this camera is a Keystone A-3 or A-7 16mm film camera - both have the same body design.

http://www.agassiztrading.com/cameras-film/cameras/cameras-16mm/16mm-keystone-a7.htm

This would be a 1930s-1940s model wind-up 16mm camera, so perfectly in period for WWII, and available to US service personnel.

Currently on EBAY listed at £41.50 Buy It Now

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-KEYSTONE-MODEL-A-7-MOVIE-CAMERA-16mm-/180696719647?pt=US_Vintage_Cameras&hash=item2a125d211f#ht_2989wt_1141

There are cheaper ones with no lenses included - so you need to look closely at the listings.

There's one left with a day to run on the auction, and it's only at £3.66 with zero bids so far.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VERY-NICE-Vintage-Keystone-Model-A-7-16mm-Cine-Camera-/130557206669?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e65d0e08d#ht_928wt_1141

 

[Thomas brookes]

Chris you genius!!!!!!! I'm watching it closely. So would this be an army issued one or a personal purchase do you think?

 

[Chris Dodkin]

I can't find anything definitive on them being military issue - most likely something that you took with you as a personal item.

The US military cameras I've seen, were very specialized - things like gun cameras etc

 

[Chris Dodkin]

There's one ref I've found to a military issue 16mm camera - The US Signal Corps used the PH-431-B 16mm camera made by Bell & Howell

This is a military version of the BELL & HOWELL MODEL AUTO LOAD 16MM CAMERA

http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-BELL-HOWELL-FILMO-AUTO-LOAD-MOVIE-CAMERA-/220659454548?_trksid=p4340.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DMRU-625%252BUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D15%26pmod%3D150426567743%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D1920545241892829826#ht_4172wt_1165

 

[Hamish Gill]

Are you thinking of getting one and using film Tom?
Or are you seriously considering converting one?
It would be more expensive, but so much cooler if you used film!
I'm not sure how you dev it round ere but I can get deved cini film on to DVD through the shop, although it ain't cheap...
If you do go down this road let me know, as I really want to put a film through my nans cameras and need a kick up the bum to do it, your doing this would provide me with that kick up the bum!

 

[Hamish Gill]

8mm cini was introduced in the 30's Tom, so why not go for a 8mm cam? Might be easier?? Don't really know what I'm taking about here really ... But as mine is 8mm we would be doing the same thing and could share some purchases should the necessity arise??
We could even get a projector!!!

 

[Chris Dodkin]

Looking at the second EBAY listing I posted - I think Tom may now be the proud owner of the 16mm Keystone!

The winning bidder has done a lot of bidding on Collectables > World War II (1939-1945) recently

A bargain for £4.93 - can't beat that.

 

[Thomas brookes]

Hahahaha!!!!! Yes chris that is me!! Hahaha
Altho im having issues with the seller now!!! Hamish I already own 2 8mm I wanted a bigger one for more room thinking of putting my iPhone in and filming with those retro cam apps. Might be the cheaper option?

Any way these are my beautiful baby's

 

[Thomas brookes]

yes chris £4.93 sorry i thaught it was 4.19 in my pm to you!! hamish where would you get film for 8mm i would love to have a go!!
how long do they run for and how much to convert?

 

[Hamish Gill]

I have a bollex palliard too ... Mines an older one though I think!
Dunno mate, we need to do a bit of research I think...

 

[Chris Dodkin]

Chaps - I see this UK company does film telecine to DVD or computer file

http://www.theoldfilmcompany.com/Page6_1.htm

No idea how good they are, but to be fair, there may not be many places to choose from!

They also sell the film - and even do a process paid type service, just like the old days!

http://www.theoldfilmcompany.com/Page4_17.htm

 

[Hamish Gill]

Cool beans ... Nice one Chris!
how do the prices compare to youe experience

 

[Tim Pindar]

The 1945 film is a very good view, thanks for posting.

 

[Pete Askew]

And they even have the Hanimex editor I used to have... This is all so tempting. I must resist!

 

[Chris Dodkin]

Hamish - I paid :$20.99 a roll (non process paid) for the same 50' 100 ASA film

Processing and Telecine to a computer file was $12 a roll for processing, plus $12 a roll for the scan/transfer.

So around $45 a roll all in - Buy/Dev/Scan - or 28 quid in real money

 

[Chris Dodkin]

The 1945 film is a very good view, thanks for posting.

Agreed - and the quality of 16mm is very enticing - will be giving it a go myself soon, so fingers crossed!

 

[Hamish Gill]

yes chris £4.93 sorry i thaught it was 4.19 in my pm to you!! hamish where would you get film for 8mm i would love to have a go!!
how long do they run for and how much to convert?

Hamish - I paid :$20.99 a roll (non process paid) for the same 50' 100 ASA film

Processing and Telecine to a computer file was $12 a roll for processing, plus $12 a roll for the scan/transfer.

So around $45 a roll all in - Buy/Dev/Scan - or 28 quid in real money

A lot cheaper then ... Might there be any merit in me and Tom dealing with who ever you deal with???

 

[Chris Dodkin]

Don't see why not.

Here's the place I bought the 8mm film: http://www.myoldcamera.com/Regular8mm.html

They take PayPal and ship internationally - Costs $8.45 - For Orders $19.99 - $80.00

And here's the place that did the Dev and Scan to File: http://www.dwaynesphoto.com/newsite2006/movies-ektachrome.html

Customers outside the United States may pay only by credit card or Paypal

 

[Thomas brookes]

Better get some rolls then Hamish!!!!